...as compared to the massive continuity of ducks.
Anonymous: How exactly is thinking Rose is pretty awesome and thinking Sarah Jane is pretty awesome a contradiction?
I have no idea, to be honest. It’s not the first time I’ve seen it, but I’ve never understood it. They’re both completely awesome, badass women who traveled with the Doctor. The idea that one is superior to the other is really subjective, and completely unsupported by either narrative. I suspect more Rose-hating shenanigans at work…either that, or an unhealthy dose of Classic!Who elitism, which is…annoying.
Honestly, putting down one companion in order to praise another, regardless of who it is or what era they’re from, just means you’re missing out on something great, not celebrating it.
not saying what side I’m on, but part of it probably has to do with Rose’s reaction to Sarah Jane and the accompanying realization that the Doctor’s had friends before and has left them behind
Here’s my question. Why is it that everyone bags on Rose, a young woman suddenly faced with evidence that the man she loves has not only had friends travel with him before, but has clearly cared about them deeply and now never, ever mentions them—catapulting her into the realization that one day, that will be her, making her question her own worth to him—but at the same time immediately forgive Sarah Jane, a woman so filled with bitterness and resentment about the way she was dumped by the man she loved, that she’s immediately competitive and condescending to a nineteen year old girl she knows nothing about? Why is that everyone seems to forget that when it came to harsh words and petty jabs, Sarah Jane started it, every time? Why do people expect Rose, who’s known for her temper and need to stand up for herself, to sit blithely by and take it?
I can understand both of their reactions, and love them all the more for them, because it’s so human. It makes a lot more sense than if one or both of them was completely nonchalant about the whole thing. But the obvious double standard is so incredibly irritating to me. Also, if that’s what people remember from that episode about their characters and the relationship between them, they really missed the point.
I want to read and watch characters who are complex, deep, vexing, frustrating, lovable… I want to read and watch people wrestling with emotions, not understanding why the people they love act the way they do. I DO NOT WANT COOKIE CUTTER CHARACTERS. I want CONFLICT. I want EMOTIONS. I want to have to FIGURE THEM OUT.
Basically, everything that gallifreyslostson said, I second.
Sorry, but if you come away from School Reunion and only see Rose as the jealous, petty one - while completely glossing over Sarah Jane, Ten and Mickey’s various actions throughout - I AM SIDE-EYEING YOU EXTREMELY HARD.
i get sad sometimes but then i remember colin baker exists
I love the Daleks. They’re like “do we…do we leave?”
“As the Type 40 bad girl made clear in The Doctor’s Wife, she doesn’t like him bringing home strays. The TARDIS, as we know, likes to fire her pet Time Lord at interesting moments in history and watch the fireworks. Anyone less mad than the Doctor might have noticed by now the TARDIS navigation always works perfectly when the crisis demands, but never when he fancies lunch, or tea and biscuits at the Eye of Orion.
Now those pesky humans who keep following him home are usually content to stumble about, saying, ‘It’s bigger on the inside,’ and remain sufficiently in awe of the Police Box magic never to question it. But clever, sceptical, hard-to-impress Clara might just cause trouble. It’s almost like it’s all building to something… Oh! What’s this I’m writing today?”
-Steven Moffat, explaining why the TARDIS doesn’t like Clara
The most frustrating thing about Moffat is that he can sometimes say the most profound, insightful things about Doctor Who, and then turn around and say something that makes it look like he’s never watched the show before. Clara is not the first companion to question the “Police Box magic” and the previous companions did not stumble around in blind awe of the TARDIS.
Rose, in her very first episode, started questioning how the TARDIS worked and why it was disguised as a Police Box. The Doctor dismissed her questions because he was still in his “Humans are Stupid Apes” phase, but she was questioning it nonetheless.
Donna was confused and terrified when she first went in the TARDIS because she thought she’d been kidnapped, but when the Doctor invited her aboard the TARDIS a second time she dismissed his attempts to give her the inspiring “The TARDIS is bigger on the inside” speech. She never remained in awe of the TARDIS and in one episode was shown actively learning how to pilot it.
Martha, the first time she travelled in the TARDIS, asked the Doctor how the TARDIS worked and how it was able to travel through time. She also insulted the Doctor’s ability to pilot the TARDIS.
Amy was skeptical of the TARDIS the first time she saw it when she was seven, and even when she finally got to go inside the TARDIS she was actively questioning the magic Police Box she’d long since stopped believing in.
Rory was not perplexed or impressed by the TARDIS at all and had already guessed that it was able to be bigger on the inside than the outside because the inside existed in a different dimension.
For goodness sake, Leela questioned the Fourth Doctor about how the TARDIS could be bigger on the inside than the outside, making him explain how the TARDIS was dimensionally transcendental in 1977!
Furthermore, the TARDIS never said she didn’t like the Doctor bringing home companions in “The Doctor’s Wife.” Her exact quote is: “I exist across all space and time and you [the Doctor] talk and run around and bring home strays!” “Strays” is not implied to be negative in this quote; in fact, just a few moments later the TARDIS refers to Rory as “the pretty one.”
Clara is not particularly special or unique in this regard, no matter how hard Moffat tries to convince us she is. She’s not the first to refuse to travel with the Doctor until she’s ready, or to set her own terms for traveling with him. She’s not the first to question the Doctor for the way he tries to convince people to join him as his companion. And she’s not the first to question the TARDIS. You want to have a plot where the TARDIS doesn’t particularly like a companion? Fine, but don’t shit on all the companions that came before Clara to try to build her up as the only one smart enough and skeptical enough to question the “Police Box magic.”
#and i love how every description he or jlc or matt gives of clara is something different#and nothing actually shown in the text
#also just WOW do I hate the idea of the tardis as this omnipotent and MALEVOLENT force #INTENTIONALLY trying to fuck up the companions lives because IT’S JEALOUS #fuck out of here that is some crazy sexist bullshit (via oodlyenough)
"Steven Moffat has hinted that there will be will further developments on why the TARDIS dislikes Clara."
IS SHE THE RANI? I THINK SHE’S THE RANI.